From: sabrina downard
Date: 21:06 on 06 Oct 2005
Subject: Dear iCal. You are lame.
Dear iCal:
Sometimes I have to schedule several items to occur at the same time.
Such as when I am going to, say, attend a conference and I want to make
a printout to put in my day planner so I can look at them all and then
pick and choose which one to attend. Sometimes, these events may be
arranged in groupings -- such as, during any one given day, there may
be, say, three rooms in use simultaneously.
It would be awfully nice of you to let me arrange my events in columns
so I could glance down a column and see what all's going on in a given
room. No, instead you seem to use some sort of crack-addled mechanism
for choosing the order in which to list events, left to right. Sometimes
I can trick you, by changing the time of an event and then changing it
back, and thereby pile things on at the right as they get pushed left.
But then I pick up the printout, and you've made a special rearrangement
just for the paper version.
This, for the record, is lame. You're going to force me to use a plain
text document just to get columns. Lame. Lame. Lame!
love,
--sabrina.
(and no, the categories don't help because you still scatter them
hither and yon, i don't have a color printer, and i sort of resent
having to have a tie-dyed calendar just because you're lame.)
From: David King Date: 03:45 on 07 Oct 2005 Subject: Re: Dear iCal. You are lame. > Sometimes I have to schedule several items to occur at the same time. <snip> > It would be awfully nice of you to let me arrange my events in columns <snip> > This, for the record, is lame. You're going to force me to use a plain > text document just to get columns. Lame. Lame. Lame! Yes, that's pretty bad. But would you be much happier to find that the iCal format maintains information as to the *visual* representation of the items?
From: sabrina downard Date: 20:14 on 07 Oct 2005 Subject: Re: Dear iCal. You are lame. : Yes, that's pretty bad. But would you be much happier to find that : the iCal format maintains information as to the *visual* representation : of the items? Well, I guess I could do without that. (Especially since I'm sure they'd find a way to make it extra hateful.) I'd be happiest if they'd arrange them left-to-right in some sort of pattern I could easily manipulate -- say, alphabetically. Then I could do things like "A: Theory of Blah," "B: Reality of Blah," "C: Blah Sucks" and have them all line up neatly. but no. It's off in happy la-la land doing its little Cupertino thang. I hates la-la land. (and it's not nearly time yet to head to the pub (or at least not yet the time when I can sneak out of work)), --s.
From: Simon Wistow Date: 09:35 on 09 Oct 2005 Subject: Re: Dear iCal. You are lame. On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:45:03PM -0700, David King said: > Yes, that's pretty bad. But would you be much happier to find that > the iCal format maintains information as to the *visual* representation > of the items? Does it? iCal or ICalendar? There's an Apple hate brewing. The ICalendar standard (RFC2445) is actually pretty good although the spec is a ballache to read and there are some nasty edgecases to pick up.
From: Smylers Date: 17:35 on 09 Oct 2005 Subject: Re: Dear iCal. You are lame. Simon Wistow writes: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:45:03PM -0700, David King said: > > > Yes, that ['iCalendar' not remembering the layout of events]'s > > pretty bad. But would you be much happier to find that the iCal > > format maintains information as to the *visual* representation of > > the items? > > Does it? I think David was suggestiong that this is actually the case, but positing an alternative universe in which 'iCalendar' would be able to avoid doing what Sabrina finds so hateful, but that in the process it would have to store additional information about the calendar, thereby corrupting the iCal format in ways which are also hateful. Smylers
From: Simon Wistow Date: 19:17 on 09 Oct 2005 Subject: Re: Dear iCal. You are lame. > I think David was suggestiong that this is actually the case, but > positing an alternative universe in which 'iCalendar' would be able to > avoid doing what Sabrina finds so hateful, but that in the process it > would have to store additional information about the calendar, thereby > corrupting the iCal format in ways which are also hateful. Doh. Of course. In my defence I've just got off a flight from Montreal and the last time I slept was on Friday Canadian time. Whenever that was.
From: David Champion Date: 16:19 on 10 Oct 2005 Subject: Re: Dear iCal. You are lame. * On 2005.10.09, in <20051009181709.GI8561@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, * "Simon Wistow" <simon@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote: > > In my defence I've just got off a flight from Montreal and the last time > I slept was on Friday Canadian time. Whenever that was. It's the same as North Pole time, only farther south.
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